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Cultural Boycott of Israel; the elephant in the room

Hiddingh Hall at UCT’s Orange Street Campus was packed to the rafters for GIPCA‘s debate; Great Texts/Big Questions – Cultural Boycotts, with a specific look at the call to boycott Israel. I panicked at the sight of many, familiar Jewish faces, thinking that things were going to get very hectic, and that I was going to get hysterical, but no; it was a polite, luke-warm affair that left me totally dissatisfied. My biggest concern is that none of the panel could stay on track. For the boycott were Zackie Achmat and UCT’s Andrew Trench, and against the boycott were Dennis Davis and William Kentridge. I am going to assume that all who read this will know who these people are. And in order for me to put my very own point across I am going to write it as an open letter to Dennis Davis, whose argument I found corrupt and disingenuous, albeit couched in his usual passionate ‘public speak’.

Dear Dennis Davis

I need to explain very clearly why your argument against a cultural boycott is flawed and nonsense. The best way I can do this is to tell you about what happened to me, here in South Africa, when I was a young person terribly opposed to the apartheid regime. I think it would be fair to say that I knew I was not alone in my condemnation of this government. There were many white people (even you) who were. But it was perfectly clear to us that a cultural, academic and sports boycott was absolutely appropriate and necessary. Until such time as these pursuits could be practiced by all South Africans and enjoyed by all South Africans, we accepted as a matter of course that we should also be deprived of those things. I certainly had no expectation that anyone outside of this country would consider me and my fellow activists and grant us special treatment. Although I had no illusions that a cultural or sports boycott could topple a government I was absolutely of the belief that it would help to. And yes, I believed that all those things I was missing, like international acts, and real Levis and proper cricket, was because of the apartheid regime. I knew what the problem was.

You spoke about the complexity of Israel and why that should make a difference. You spoke about the many Israelis who do not support occupation. It is my belief that these are the very people that would totally understand, respect and even support a call to boycott, for the reasons stated above. If they feel punished and deprived then it is because they live in a country whose elected government has created this need for this boycott. To hold the dissenters up as the reason for cultural engagement is nonsense, and it mocks their own legitimate call for a boycott. You disrespect them and their views by saying that they need our cultural engagement.

Then off you went and threw up the paranoid and hideous excuse that Israel is the only country fighting for sovereignty against threats by Iran to wipe it out. You said that this is another reason that makes Israel special. I still don’t know why you said that and what it has to do with anything, other than to throw the normal stinky red herring in the direction of the usual suspects who come up with a contrary argument. Sorry, but this one is truly offensive and meaningless.

Finally, you said something unforgivable. You said that while you are very opposed to the occupation you wanted to remind people that Israel wasn’t that bad. There were worse places, you said. We should boycott them, you said. Boycott China, and Libya, you said. I really hope that you were kidding, because if you weren’t then you stooped beyond the lowest point. I want you to know that you, Dennis Davis are not the person who can decide that Israel is not that bad. It’s not your call to make.

Finally, you think that those many, poor, complex, non government supporting Israelis need us. They need our help to work from within. Here’s what I think. That is arrogant, self-righteous and patronising.

I don’t really know what you were trying to say, or why you don’t support a boycott. Lots of huffing and puffing.

For me it’s fairly simple. The principle of the cultural boycott is to help, in even the smallest way, the toppling of the current regime. We are outside. We want to show our moral alignment. We want to send a message that we won’t engage, exchange, or co-create until people are free. Especially us South Africans, because we remember the how and why of our own boycott. There are no exceptions, excuses or justifications. You are either for the regime or against it. Let the dissident Israelis fight from within. We can take a stand right here.

Finally, I’d like to write a few words in response to William Kentridge. I found your defense of exhibiting in Israel (in retrospect) very hollow. Unless you made a huge, public noise to the contrary William, I suspect it is safe to assume that the Israeli government thought you were on their side. Did you make a huge noise?

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  1. Lima Oscar

    I have heard Denis Davis speak on a number of occassions. And everytime he uses the same argument tactic; he criticises Israel (so as to appear to the audience to be sympathetic to the plight of the Palestinian people and in doing so gain the respect of the audience), but then he immediately goes on to speak about, “the existential crisis that Israel faces”, the “Holocaust as a justification for a homeland” and that “Israel is a very complex society” so we can’t simply identify discrimination as discrimination. So, in effect he is saying that he disagrees with the crimes against humanity but at the same time he supports the regime that perpetrates these atrocities. This is a contradiction.

    Denis is a fence sitter. And for good measure, he always brings up the Iran/nuclear paranoia scenario. The fact is that no-one is calling for the destruction of the State of Israel. What IS being called for is a country where everyone has equal rights and equal opportunities and where there is no discrimination…just like we have in South Africa.

  2. Herman Lategan

    In November, the anti-Israeli travelling cirque du frique will be visiting Cape Town — The Russell Tribunal on Palestine. Main cast of local clowns participating of course will be the illustriously opportunistic Ronnie Kasrils, one of the most useless politicians we’ve ever had, and the great moral icon of our times, convicted fraudster Winnie (Stompie) Madikizela-Mandela.

    The latter-day comedian Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu, the only one with real talent in the circus, will also be joining them in their collective rage against Israel. Fair enough, with him I have no gripe, and let me add, some points against Israel are worth considering.

    But what I would like to ask the rest of these hypocritical media-hungry supporters of the local anti-Israeli lobby, is this: Apart from Tutu, not one of you has made any statement against the atrocities in Zimbabwe, or against the raging homophobia in Uganda, or against the senseless rape of thousands of men and women in the DRC by soldiers, or against the countless wars in Africa (on our own continent), culminating in terrible famine, suffering and murder. Why?

    No, on this your silence is deafening. I put it to you that you are venal phonies with hidden agendas and misplaced priorities. Until I hear you raging against the injustices in our own country and on our own continent, until then, I dismiss you as politically ignorant freaks and sorrowful jesters.

    You Megan, I am afraid, are part of this circus.

  3. Janni Younge

    Mr Lategan, name calling doesn’t make for compelling intellectual debate or argument.

    Megan, well done for naming the elephant.

    As an artist, I need to believe that art can make a difference, that it can open up new ways of thinking and even being. It does. Kentridge’s enormous reputation is testament to that. But art is also production and big business. Of course the reflecting studio-based withdrawn from political engagement approach is valid until you engage by choosing to exhibit against the direct appeal of the activists. Denial of these appeals becomes a political act and an exhibition of that scale is an economic engagement. Art and politics cannot be so neatly segregated.

  4. Lima Oscar

    Herman, if you want to be taken seriously, then put forward a serious and cogent argument and not, as has already been pointed out, a rant at worst and a poetic diatribe at best. Herman, we are not “Anti-Israel. This is a very naive and irresponsible assessment. We ARE pro-peace, pro-human rights for all in Israel/Palestine, pro-equal opportunities for all in Israel/Palestine. Your ‘arguments’ are verbatim those trotted out by people with Zionist inclinations who seek desperately to ignore and obfuscate the presence of this elephant which embodies discrimination, harrassment, occupation, assassination, inequality, apartheid style border controls, the bombing of civilians in urban areas, the arrest of children under military law, to name a few.
    The Zionists bleat on that the world is “against Israel” when the International Criminal Court and the United Nations point to its criminality and crimes against humanity.
    There are many people and organisations who support the fight for justice in the countries that you mention. We simply choose to support the struggle for justice for both Israelis AND Palestinians.

  5. megan

    Ag come on Herman! It was not a symposium on choosing which countries to boycott. I don’t see our artists rushing off to the DRC, or Uganda to put on a show or exhibition. The question here is real and valid. And I believe that South African artists should take a stand.

  6. Lima Oscar

    Hand Spring Puppets should consider no longer working with Kentridge. This is one way to boycott and to take a moral stand.
    As Zacky Achmat suggested, when supporters of the Israeli state come to speak at UCT, there should be protests.
    As Zacky Achmat suggested, UCT should officially sever ties with Israeli Universities and only those aqcademics who do not support Israeli government policies, should be alloed to speak at UCT. As Mr Achmat said, the boycott should be applied to right wing Israeli’s.
    UCT should invite more Palestinian academics to speak at UCT and invite more Palestinian artists, dramatists, dancers, performers to exhibit/perform at UCT.
    Left wing Israeli’s and Palestinains who are working together should be invited to UCT.

  7. Herman Lategan

    Lima Oscar (Lima), if you want to be taken seriously, you should write under your own name. And such Victorian faux concern at my so-called name calling in my post!Please, get over it, your hypocrisy is sickening.Your agendas are misplaced, your moral indignation borders on a sort of neurotic pathology.Under the guise of ‘argument’ and sensible analysis, it’s all mumbo-jumbo. Orwellian actually.

  8. Lima Oscar

    No Herman, I write under-cover and what I write makes perfect sense whether it is under my ‘real’ name or not. You have not responded to any of the important points that I have made. Rather, you continue to sling mud.

  9. Herman Lategan

    I’m not keen on ad hominem attacks, so let me try and understand this. Why are South Africans obsessing about Israel, when we have so many pressing issues in our own country? Can you please explain that to me. Also, I am no expert on Israel, I simply have a passion for all things and people Jewish. I thus look at this whole issue from an emotional point of view, not a cold academic perspective. Just as I despised apartheid from a very clear emotional centre. For me it’s not about arguing for the sake of grandstanding, brinkmanship, one-upmanship. It’s more a case of being amazed that the very people who are part of the local anti-Israeli lobby keep quiet about Somalia, Zimbabwe, Uganda, and often South Africa. And I stick to what I said, people who write under pseudonymous about issues such as this have hidden agendas. It is a strange thing to do, what are you hiding? yes, OK, don’t tell me, I have an indication who you are judging from your style of writing. In any case, I’m not out to fight, I too am simply trying to make sense of a very complex issue. Shalom.

  10. Lima Oscar

    Hi Herman, I will explain from my perspective: It is important to seperate Judaism from Zionism. Judaism is an ancient religion and culture. Zionism is a relatively new ideology. A person can be Jewish, born in South Africa and beleive that their homeland is South Africa and indeed be patriotic South Africans, practice the religion of Judaism and not be Zionists.
    It has been argued that Israel was a reponse to the oppression and genocide of the Jewish people. Does it then follow that gays (another oppressed group of people) should also have their own homeland?
    You are right Herman, a growing number of Jewish South Africans have joined an increasing number of Jews from the world over in distancing themselves from Zionism and the occupation and speaking out against it. They are doing this because their religion and culture (Judaism) is being associated with this occupation. Also, on a practical level, one cannot split ones energies to speak out against oppression in every country. There are indeed groups of Zimbabwians in exile who take up the cause of Zimbabwe. Again, this is not an “ant-Israel” lobby. It is a pro-peace lobby.
    This issue has been billed as complex, but I really think that it is simple. Shalom.

  11. Herman Lategan

    Thanks Lima, I have found this discussion interesting. I see where you’re coming from, it makes sense. Megan, it would be nice to meet up some time to chat more, I’ll Facebook you. 🙂

  12. megan

    I have also enjoyed the debate. And yes, I’d love to chat.

  13. afrehley

    “I want you to know that you, Dennis Davis are not the person who can decide that Israel is not that bad. It’s not your call to make.”

    But, apparently, it YOU can decide that it IS “that bad”…

    Is the pot calling the kettle black?

  14. afrehley

    “I want you to know that you, Dennis Davis are not the person who can decide that Israel is not that bad. It’s not your call to make.”

    But, apparently, YOU can decide that it IS “that bad”…

    Is the pot calling the kettle black?

  15. megan

    Afrehley,
    Not me, no. And no kettle or pot.

  16. Lima Oscar

    One can only draw conclusions form the facts. The facts speak for themsleves.

  17. lynne

    to Megan Lma and Jann

    00ps eyboard not cooperatng

    well sad all three of you you have covered all aspects of the debate and truth and moralty comes out tops
    to Herman
    sometmes people have to tae on pseudonyms for their own safety when dealng ublcly with these ssues

    than you everyone for allowng ths to go publc and myself am deeply dssapponted n struggle cons le Wllam and DEnns DAvsfor not havng the courage to spea out aganst the njustce that s GAZA

    apologies for the spelling errors frustrates me as well
    thanks
    Lynne

  18. Gill Katz

    As a Zionist, Israel loving South African woman – I have often clashed heads with Zackie. When faced with irrefutable facts, just like his friends Tutu and Friedman, he utters those bilious buzz phrases such as “I don’t discuss israel with ‘hasbara’ (grammatically incorrect but we get the point, lovie) or “We don’t speak to Israel Apologists. I often muse that we poor Jews (HAH) are chased from country to country, and when we finally make it home to our little strip of land, we are told to get out of that place too. We hear about ‘being driven into the sea” which I think is actually a strangely delightful idea, given that Israeli science and technology is so ahead of other countries, that Israel could probably create a magnificent underwater country for us. But of course we’d be told to move out of there too, because we were invading fish territory…

  19. megan

    Oh dear Gill, there are so many problems with your emotional argument that I am not going to go into them here. Perhaps it would serve us to remember the topic of the boycott. Since you don’t have anything to say in that regard, what are you doing here, and did you read my piece at all?

  20. Gill Katz

    Sad that you – like Tutu et al – also refuse to debate.. and instead give a lame excuse. C’mon girl! Put on your big girl knickers and come chat with me. I am truly gentle, sweet and kind, and I would love to engage with you.
    P.S. Of course I read your piece. Ergo – I engaged with you

  21. megan

    Ok Gill, I believe that is possible to be Israel loving AND opposed to the current regime (although I myself am not so Israel loving right now). I believe that being white South Africans gives us a special insight into a ruling government that is cruel, criminal and violent. I believe that the sooner we can encourage peace, and stand for it, and be committed to it, even though it is expensive and demanding certain sacrifices, we need to do that. Or face the much worse consequences that hatred, violence, human rights violations will, without a doubt, lead to. Engaging enough for you?

  22. Gill Katz

    Thanks for that! And I salute you. I too am seeking peace. But there is also a price to pay. When you have Israel on one hand, handing back Gaza in peace, and the result is a barrage of rockets aimed at a civilian population – then I say “Where is a partner for peace?” When you have Hamas refusing to remove the clause in its charter which states that it shall NEVER recognise a State of Israel, then where is a partner for peace? In S Africa, Nelson Mandela – a man I have met, interviewed and written about – comes out of jail and seeks peace, I salute that, and am a proud S African. We don’t have a Mandela in the Middle East. Is Israel 100% angelic and good? Good grief no! But she has to watch herself from all sides in order to survive and when the media are biased and hear one side only, I throw up my hands and shake my head. Carry on seeking peace please. I do – all the time. Best wishes..

  23. megan

    You see Gill, that’s one of the reasons I didn’t want to get started. I get hysterical with the paranoid “they want to wipe Israel from the face of the earth” approach to justify the Apartheid policies of the Israeli regime. It is the same as “die swart gevaar” and “die rooi gevaar” that were going to wipe us whites out.

  24. Victor Gordon

    Megan, I’m simply curious. What books have you read about the history of the Israel/Palestinian conflict? Is the knowledge you currently have derived only from the media?
    Finally – have you ever visited Israel?

    Please be honest in your response.
    Thank you.

  25. megan

    Ah, I see word has spread. I have been to Israel four times. I have lots of family there. My late father and mother lived in Israel before I was born. I went to a Jewish high school and attended Habonim. My grandmother died in Jerusalem.
    What books have you read, and have you ever visited Israel?

  26. Lima Oscar

    In Nelson Mandela’s words: ‘It behoves all South Africans, erstwhile beneficiaries of generous international support, to stand up and be counted among those contributing actively to the cause of freedom and justice….we know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.’

  27. Lima Oscar

    In a month in which Israel has approved further illegal settlements in the face of protests from leaders around the world, South African student leaders have voted for a boycott of Israeli products and services. In a statement, they say:

    We, students and youth of a post Apartheid South Africa, who bear the scars of a racist history and who continue to fight for complete liberation, have a duty and responsibility to stand in solidarity with those facing oppression worldwide. Israeli apartheid is one such form of oppression.

    Israeli media boast that a mission of 150 Israeli propagandists will be sent to universities in five countries to fix Israel’s ‘serious image problems’. The Israeli mission will begin on South African campuses on the 11th of August, with a delegation that includes at least two aides from the Israeli parliament. A delegation member was clear about the intention of their trip: “We have to create some doubt in their [South African students’] minds.”

    Don’t patronize us! We lived apartheid, we suffered apartheid, we know what apartheid is, we recognise apartheid when we see it. And when we see Israel, we see a regime that practices apartheid. Israel’s image needs no changing; its policies do! We urge Israeli students to instead join the growing and inspiring internal resistance to their regime, particularly the boycott from within movement, rather than waste time and money on these propaganda trips to deceive us Black students, South Africans have no need for these Muldergate-like trips.

    A ‘major focus’ of the Israeli trip will be the University of Johannesburg (UJ). On 1st April 2011 UJ’s Senate, with the full backing of UJ’s Student Representative Council, terminated its institutional relationship with Israel’s Ben-Gurion University. Indeed, UJ set an academic boycott of Israel precedent that all other South African and international universities can follow.

    Following UJ’s decision, and in response to a letter sent to us by Palestinian students, we urge all SRCs, student groups and other youth structures to strategize and implement a boycott of Israel and its campaigns. We declare that all SA campuses must be Apartheid-Israel free zones.

    As with the struggle against apartheid in South Africa, international solidarity is key in overcoming Israeli Apartheid. In Nelson Mandela’s words: ‘It behoves all South Africans, erstwhile beneficiaries of generous international support, to stand up and be counted among those contributing actively to the cause of freedom and justice….we know too well that our freedom is incomplete without the freedom of the Palestinians.’

    FOR THE RECORD

    A. On Education

    1. The Israeli occupation of the Palestinian territories has had disastrous effects on access to education for Palestinians. Palestinian students face poverty, harassment and humiliation as a result of Israeli policy and actions.

    2. Israel mounted direct attacks on Palestinian education, including the complete closures of two Palestinian universities in 2003 and the targeting and bombing of more than 60 primary and secondary schools during the Israeli attacks on Gaza in 2009.

    3. Israel’s assault on the education of Palestinians is illegal under international law. The right to education is a fundamental human right enshrined in the Universal Declaration of Human Rights and other international instruments.

    4. The Israeli blockade of Gaza has had a detrimental impact on students. Gaza’s electricity supply is controlled by Israel and shut-down for several hours most days, making it difficult for students to study. Moreover, the blockade means insufficient quantities of educational equipment, such as paper, desks and books, reach students.

    B. On Israeli Apartheid

    5. Several of our senior leaders have compared Israel to Apartheid South Africa, including Kgalema Mothlantle, Blade Nzimande, Zwelinzima Vavi, Rob Davies, Jeremy Cronin, Ahmed Kathrada, Winnie Mandela, Ronnie Kasrils, Denis Goldberg, the late Kader Asmal and Archbishop Desmond Tutu.

    6. Both the former and current United Nations Special Rapporteurs for Human Rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories have requested that Israel be investigated for the crime of apartheid.

    7. In an official report commissioned by the South African government in 2009, the Human Sciences Research Council confirmed that Israel, by its policies and practices, is guilty of the crime of apartheid.

    8. In November 2010, South Africa’s Department of International Relations and Cooperation called upon the Israeli government “to cease their activities that are reminiscent of apartheid forced removals…”

    C. On Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS)

    8. Palestinian civil society, including student groups, have called for a policy of Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions (BDS) of Israel until it abides by international law.

    9. This call has the endorsement of the largest and most representative coalition of civil and political society in Palestine. The call also has the support of a growing number of progressive Israeli groups.

    10. In 2010, the United Nations Special Rapporteur for Human Rights in the Occupied Palestinian Territories, Professor Richard Falk, said: “It is politically and morally appropriate, as well as legally correct, to accord maximum support to the BDS campaign.”

    11. COSATU, South Africa’s largest trade union federation was one of the first unions to endorse the BDS call. Subsequently, numerous other international trade unions have also adopted a pro-BDS position.

    12. Several international groups have began to advance the BDS call in the cultural, consumer, sports, economic and academic spheres. Earlier this year the largest student union in Europe, the ULU, passed a motion in support of BDS.”

    ISSUED AT WITS UNIVERSITY ON THURSDAY 4 AUGUST 2011 by South African Union of Students and South African Student Congress

  28. Lima Oscar

    Debate invovles the application of logical argument to have a discussion. When logic is discarded in an attempt to avoid documented facts, there simply is no longer grounds for debate.

  29. Lima Oscar

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/activestills/6019424340/ this is just one reason to support a cultural boycott.

  30. Victor Gordon

    Megan, other than telling me that you have visited Israel 4 times and that you have family connections you failed to answer my primary question, being: What books have you read about Israel?

    However, as you have asked me the very same question allow me to list just some of my reading from my own collection, having forgotten some of those which I have borrowed and no longer am able to refer to.

    May I point out that the list that follows is not exhaustive as I posses yet more works that are in boxes in my garage.

    I would also wish to explain that (as you might notice), although my attitude towards Israel is largely conservative, my reading includes what one might term “Liberal” thinking as well as a number of works written by Evangelical authors like Derek Prince. Clearly, I have always been prepared to expose myself to all spectres – both liberal and conservative and am of the opinion that both have something valid to offer, provided it is done with honesty and integrity. The moment one discards context I lose interest. Having said that, in all the reading I have done over the past 40 to 50 years, I have yet to find a single sentence that makes a valid case that Israel is an Apartheid State, or even practices apartheid in any way that conforms to either the definition thereof or our understanding thereof based on the South African experience. If you were to argue that racism exists in Israel I would not argue otherwise – but would contend that racism exists to some degree or another in every country on the planet, the vast majority of which do not have to face the challenges of survival that Israel does. I would also contend that it is in the hearts and minds of the vast majority of human-kind. But that is an entirely different issue.

    What I do notice in the statements that I read on this blog is that most do not stem from a base of knowledge and all-important context but simply from the gut – providing us with meaningless soundbites that might satisfy the writer but have nothing to offer intelligent debate. The vast majority are simply gleaned from the media which is sadly and generally uninformed. (Read “The Other War” by Stephanie Gutmann)

    In addition, I have probably read as many works to do with the Holocaust as well as extensive passages from the Koran. I too have family in Israel and have visited at least a dozen times.

    I look forward to your list in return.

    1967 – Tom Segev
    Six Days of War – Michael Oren
    Israel-Palestine on Record – Howard Friel/Richard Falk
    A State beyond the Pale – Robyn Sheperd
    The Other War – Stephanie Gutmann
    The LegalFoundation and Borders of Israel Under International Law – Howard Grief
    How Israel Lost – Richard Ben Cramer
    The United States & the Jewish State Movement – Schechtman
    The Case For Peace – A. Dershowitz
    The Case for Israel – A. Dershowitz
    Why I am a Zionist – Gil Troy
    Agricultral Colonization in Palestine – Ruppin (1925)
    The Wall: Prophesies, Policies & Middle East Peace – Ramon Bennett
    The War of Atonement – Chaim Hertzog
    The Gun & the Olive Branch – David Hirst
    In the Land of Israel – Amos Oz
    A Peace to End All Peace – D. Fromkin
    And That’s the Way it Isn’t – L. B. Bozell
    Confronting Jihad – Saul Singer
    Globalising Hatred – Denis MacShane
    Trial & Error – Chaim Weizmann
    Operation Susannah – Aviezer Golan
    Those Who Forget the Past- R. Rosenbaum
    The Case Against Israel’s Enemies – A. Dershowitz
    Holy War for the Promised Land – D. Dolan
    Long is the Road to Freedom – Y. Meridor
    The Revolt – Menachem Begin
    The Prime Ministers – Yehuda Avner
    A History of Palestine from 135AD to Modern Times – James Parkes
    The Israel Dilemma – Miliband & Liebman
    Weapons of Mass Distortion – L. B. Bozell
    The Eve of Destruction – Howard Blum
    The Missing Peace – Dennis Ross
    One Long War – Netanel Lorch
    Future Jihad – Whalid Phares
    The Other Side of Israel – Susan Nathan
    Herzl – Steven Beller
    O Jerusalem – Collins & Lapierre
    The Six Day War – R. Churchill/ W. S. Churchill
    From Time Immemorial – Peters
    Zionism; The first 120 Years – Mordecai Naor
    Unholy War – Randall Price
    A Nation On Trial – Norman Finkelstein
    The Longest War – Jacobo Timerman
    Operation Exodus – Gustav Scheller
    Eye on the Media – David Bar-Illan
    My People – Aba Eban
    My Country – Aba Eban
    David’s Sling – Shimon Perez
    My Story – Golda Meir
    A Personal History – David Ben Gurion
    The Destiny of Israel and the Church – Derek Prince
    3 Messages for Israel – Derek Prince
    Israel and the Nations – F F Bruce
    Fishers and Hunters – Meridel Rawlings
    The Last Word on the Middle East – Derek Prince
    The Secret War Against the Jews – John Loftus
    Myths & Facts – Mitchell Bard
    Restoration of Israel – Errol Hulse
    The Legacy of Jihad – Andrew Bostomm
    Truman and Israel – Michael J. Cohen
    Yassir Arafat, A Political Biography – Barry Rubin
    Right to Exist – Yaccov Lozowick (Reading currently)

    etc etc etc.

  31. Gill Katz

    Megan – please Google the HAMAS charter, and confirm for yourself that HAMAS will never recognise a State of Israel. Abbas too, has recently confirmed that no Jew will be allowed to live in a Palestinian State.
    Now tell me who is practising Apartheid?

  32. Gill Katz

    just revisiting, and wondering what you feel about the idea of an indepent Palestinian State?
    P.S…. It will be Judenrein – Jew free… according to Abu Mazen..

  33. Leonard Shapiro

    Victor Gordon, I recommend a book by Professor Illan Pappe, titled, ‘The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine’. Prof Pappe is an Israeli Jew who teaches at Exeter University in the UK. I have listened to him speak on a number of occasions when he visited South Africa. I have read his book and a number of academic papers. The good thing about academic papers is that they are peer reviewed and for people reading this who may not know, this means that any claims need to be backed up with citable evidence. Pappe draws on historical facts from archives in Israel to make the claims that he does.
    Here is one of his many recorded talks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=buhpHTGAlTE

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